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äuä de scho ([personal profile] lemiru) wrote2009-03-04 12:28 pm

Leave it to Japan to make reading like maths.

Once upon a time, Japan was looking at China's texts and thought "wouldn't it be great if I could write and read like that?" But poor little Japan had a complete other grammar structure than big China, and so it just didn't work out. Japan sat down and set up some rules and secret codes in order to be able to read classic chinese texts. And so Kanbun was invented, a system that would last for many centuries way over the Meiji Restoration.

Unfortunately, that day someone had spiked Japan's tea, and the rules turned out to be pure crack.




Or, like someone in my class said, it's like trying to solve a 10 000 piece-puzzle of a blue sky over a blue ocean.

[identity profile] millakokujo.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
You never learnt italian, bb.

[identity profile] lemiru.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I KNOW FRENCH AND I LEARNED SPANISH DOES THAT COUNT.


I mean, seriously. We have to read CHINESE texts, transform them into CLASSICAL JAPANESE text which in turn we have to turn into MODERN JAPANESE texts in order to, at the very last step and after a lot of cried blood, translate them into GERMAN.

Gosh, why do I do this to myself... *sobs quietly forever*

[identity profile] millakokujo.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Why don't they let you do Chinese text > German?

THIS IS MADNESS.

ALSO NO, ITALIAN IS WORSE THAN SPANISH.

[identity profile] lemiru.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Because we don't know Chinese! We're all japanese students, and that's actually the point of the whole thing, sob. It doesn't help that my classic japanese final was three years ago and that I, in my unlimited optimism, decided that it'd be ok to forget everything about it ever since. BIG MISTAKE DUN DUN DUN FILM AT ELEVEN!

WELL I UNDERSTOOD SAKURA JUST FINE SO THERE! D=

[identity profile] millakokujo.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
WTF. A-And how do you do the Chinese > Old Japanese step?!

TRY TO UNDERSTAND THIS, and then we can return to this topic.

[identity profile] lemiru.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
With the 'code' Japan invented, the kareriten. Basically, there's little sings and whatsnot spiked through the whole text which tell you how the chinese signs have to be read in japanese order(like this) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanbun#Example). Unfortunately, what sounds like a good idea is a system WEIRD AS FUCK. Then, there all the grammatical additions the text needs to be understood in japanese, sprinkled on top. JUST BECAUSE.


Also, hey, la Divina Commedia is totally cheating, yo. I mean, I'm a native French/German speaker, yet I wouldn't understand anything from the 14th century of ANY of those countries. (that, and their spelling was kinda WEIRD =D )

[identity profile] millakokujo.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
JAPANESES ARE WEIRD.


I can't understand Ugo Foscolo that well. Enough said.

[identity profile] lemiru.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
WORD. JUST. SO MUCH.


Heeee, this is why I study pictures~

[identity profile] fanofstuff666.livejournal.com 2010-04-14 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
This sounds sadly like my mother reminiscing of university whilst in Athens. XD I pity you, darlin'.

[identity profile] lemiru.livejournal.com 2010-04-14 09:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh noes, people reading my old entries! 8D

and yeah, Kanbun was hardly full of rainbows and puppies. Luckily, I passed the final at my first try, thus have never to suffer through this ever again. MWAHAHAHAHA~

[identity profile] kassie-opia.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
HOOOLY GOD MIRU THAT IS INSANE GET AWAY FROM THEM THERE LETTERS BEFORE THEY GET INTO YOUR BRAIN.

That sounds like pure liquid evil. And I like weirdo language things. Bloody hell o_O

[identity profile] lemiru.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I CAN'T IT'S MANDATORY OMG I AM SO DOOMED SOB!

At the end of today's class, I was half horrified, half fascinated by this... thing. But I second the 'bloody hell' wholeheartedly. THERE IS GOING TO BE AN EXAM AT THE END OF THE SEMESTER! I MIGHT HAVE TO COMMIT RITUAL SUICIDE BY MEANS OF A TEAPOT AND A SPONGE BEFORE THEN IN ORDER TO NOT COMPLETELY LOSE FACE!
or something.

[identity profile] kassie-opia.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
D: D: D: OH THE HORROR! FROM WHAT I CAN DEDUCE FROM WIKI IT IS LIKE THE WORST BITS OF MATHS AND READING COMBINED. ONLY WORSE. I SHALL SEND YOU MORAL SUPPORT THROUGH THE ETHER HOWEVER~

[identity profile] lemiru.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
IT'S EXACTLY LIKE MATHS, YES! YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHICH SIGNS YOU HAVE TO 'SOLVE' FIRST (like x comes before +) BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE THEY CAN TOTALLY TRICK YOU (like, a + in a parenthesis comes before a x outside of it.)

I DUNNO IF THIS MADE ANY SENSE BUT THIS IS HOW I FELT DURING THAT CLASS OMG I FAILED MATHS WHY DO I HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN AAAAH *brb rocking back and forth in fetal position nao*